A Pastor's Perspective on Christian Counseling -
An Interview with Dr. Gary Chapman

Dr. Chapman is well known as an author and speaker. He has conducted his marriage seminars around the country and around the world at the invitation of churches, governments, and the military. He is also Senior Associate Pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, where he has served for 33 years. We asked him to share his thoughts on Christian counseling.

Do you see a role for counseling to play in the Body of Christ?
I believe that in the life of all churches, counseling is a necessary part because of today’s culture. There are more broken and fractured people, more divorces, and more abuse, both verbal and physical. People live with pressure and stress, which often leads to anger, which may then be expressed at home against the family.

How would you describe the unique role of Christian counseling?
As a pastor, I have to begin with my view of discipleship. I believe discipleship is taking a Christian where he is, and helping him become more like Jesus. Generally, people do this by hearing a message, then applying it to their lives. Some folks will need more help than others to be able to grow simply by hearing a sermon. They may need individual help dealing with issues in their lives, or from their past, in order to move forward with growth toward Christ-likeness. This is where a Christian counselor becomes a partner in ministry.

What about seeing a pastor?
When I was in seminary, only a few courses were offered on counseling. That has changed today, but pastor’s plates are full. They cannot do it all. Most pastors I meet are thrilled when they have access to Christian counselors to whom they may refer people.

As you travel, what attitude do you sense regarding counseling?
People in general no longer see going for counseling as a sign of failure. If their body hurts, they go to see the doctor. If their heart hurts, they go to see a counselor.

What encouragement would you give to pastors regarding Christian counseling?
Most pastors I meet are very accepting of Christian counseling. I believe they should view Christian counselors as colleagues. If the goal of a pastor is discipleship and growth toward Christ-likeness in his congregation, a Christian counselor may be just the resource person he needs.

Associates in Christian Counseling has been honored to have Dr. Chapman as the featured speaker at our annual banquets in 2001 and 2004. For more information on his books and ministry, visit www.GaryChapman.org.